Wonderful blog! I found it while surfing around on Yahoo News. Do you have any suggestions on how to get listed in Yahoo News? I’ve been trying for a while but I never seem to get there! Thanks…

A couple points I’ll raise:

1. Not all atheists are outraged. Put anyone in a corner and they tend to strike, I think that’s why there’s this common misconception about atheists. The quiet ones just go about their business. Unfortunately, the majority of atheists live in countries dominated by societies that are supported and run by people who believe completely in faerie tales. Outrageous indeed.

2. The difference, I would propose, in Communists persecuting the religious and the religious creating holy wars and inquisitions is that while Communists are atheist, their actions are not driven by atheism, but just by a different blind ideological faith which is as equally twisted as any religion.

3. I think you need to brush up on evolution if you’re not clear on why there are still apes. And you’re actually wrong in saying we’ve not seen anything evolve. Perhaps not in nature in real time, as it is a slow force, and just not possible, but under controlled settings there have been lots of proven examples of evolution. Take a look at the domesticated dog if you want proof kicking around the house.

4. While I can appreciate you trying to play moderator, especially when there are comments above that are tipping the scales into the insane, check out the section of the original posts on my thoughts on moderates.

5. Regarding there being no support groups for atheists, yep — it’s a bit of a lonely road, and proof that more atheists need to “come out” and create social groups that are atheist-accepting/inclusive. I’ve a son now, and it saddens me that any group he joins will likely have a religious agenda or backdrop as that’s where their money is coming from. Indoctrination aside, I think the community aspects of religion are wonderful, and I doubt very many atheists will disagree with it. The problem is that its principles are founded in fiction, and not in a fun bookclub sort of way, but in a “damn-your-soul if you don’t believe what I’m telling you” sort of way.

6. “the Catholic church is the 2nd largest provider of social services after the state government. I haven’t seen atheists as a group do any charitable act.” Remember that the Catholic church isn’t actually charitable — it’s members are, as the church is simply spending their parishioners’ money. They aren’t a business, so if they give away money given to them by people looking to help pave their way to heaven, that’s not charity, that’s simply reallocation of funds. Funds they’re very likely to get back by assuring the circular support of a heavily Catholic community. As for atheistic charity, I think if you could track down the info, I doubt you’d find a huge disparity between personal charitable acts of the religious and the non. By and large, people are charitable because of their humanity, not their religious beliefs. It’s just religious marketing that leads people to believe otherwise. But if you really need direct examples of how atheists have given to their fellow man — I’m sure your home is filled with things invented by atheistic scientists that make your day, and the days of the poor, all the better.

7. “Furthermore an atheist argument can somewhat be dissolved by the idea that they are against organised religion rather than religion in at itself. If religion was something personal that was kept to individuals then where is the outrage?” — Sort of. The argument cannot be dissolved, but the “angry atheist” image sure can. Atheists simply don’t believe in gods, and so that being their “argument”, that’s not going to change by decentralizing religious belief (not that decentralization could ever happen — personal Jesus or not, religion is about power and religious history is full of failed attempts of breaking from that power structure, and in the end simply creating a new centralized power). Atheists generally have no problem with people who do believe in gods — maybe just the douche bags. The “angry atheist” is simply a reaction to a world that is heavily biased in the theistic debate.

Those that believe in evolution as a concept make the argument that man evolved from other things. Certainly the complex can come from the simple. But it doesn’t exactly answer as to why there are still apes..well unless we forced people to live there and pretty much eat all of their food. We’re intelligent enough to buy and shop for food then kill it with our bear hands (if people do that legally well that’s fine). We haven’t exactly seen anything evolve on its own but there’s enough evidence to at least suggest it exists

Those that believe in creationism believe that man came about due to God’s will…there’s not much for evidence of this…

Ok so what if they are both right?..huh?

What if we can reduce evolution to simply being a massive mutation that somehow within itself over time became the majority. What if it was God that was making this evolution?

I was Catholic…then I was Atheist for a number of years…now I am Catholic again but I don’t take everything literally.

Sure one might argue that religion has been twisted for things but to compare there’s really only four theocracies on the planet: Iran, Israel (yes it is), Andorra (something about a bishop is always a partial head of government and of course Vatican City. In athiesm I just envision China (I’ve been there) and the soviet union. Both of which were places where leaders thought they were accountable to no one (no God) and they started tens of millions. I’m not suggesting that atheists are murderers but if they activally try to suppress religion that is what can occur.

Furthermore in not believing in God there’s really no support groups…there’s no “church” in at itself. There’s no fund raisers..there’s no donations to little league teams etc. I’m in Mass and the Catholic church is the 2nd largest provider of social services after the state government. I haven’t seen atheists as a group do any charitable act.

Furthermore an atheist argument can somewhat be dissolved by the idea that they are against organised religion rather than religion in at itself. If religion was something personal that was kept to individuals then where is the outrage?

BTW incase someone tries a side argument I am for gay marriage, pro choice and for the death penalty.

How could this complicated life processes can be sum up into a one simple word “natural selection”?

How could a created object “man” themselves explains his own existence or origin.In other words the claim comes from their own self.The claim should probably come from a third party, that is the creator.Who knows better or have the right to comment to a certain existence?A toy or the maker of the toy?

If life happens to exist by chance, the probability of your nose being located where they are now is almost nil.Chances won’t happen much often, creation yes (mass production).

By the way I admire Fred Phelps Sr.