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	<description>I&#039;m a dad, designer, China expat and blogger</description>
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		<title>By: KwaiLo</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-35419</link>
		<dc:creator>KwaiLo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Blog Ryan! And hello fellow bloggers.

I&#039;m Dean a Montreal native living miserably in Toronto. 

I taught ESL to french business people in Montreal with only an ESL certificate and some University under my bealt. 

I&#039;ve been considering teaching in Hong Kong but nervous about not having a degree.

Most importantly the apparent 40% turnover for teachers breaking unhappy conract conditions and/or employers scares the crap out of me lol. 

Do the same schools and recruiters exist inside HK as well?

What advice would you have if any?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Blog Ryan! And hello fellow bloggers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Dean a Montreal native living miserably in Toronto. </p>
<p>I taught ESL to french business people in Montreal with only an ESL certificate and some University under my bealt. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been considering teaching in Hong Kong but nervous about not having a degree.</p>
<p>Most importantly the apparent 40% turnover for teachers breaking unhappy conract conditions and/or employers scares the crap out of me lol. </p>
<p>Do the same schools and recruiters exist inside HK as well?</p>
<p>What advice would you have if any?</p>
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		<title>By: Calivinguy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-35386</link>
		<dc:creator>Calivinguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the advice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the advice!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-35385</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Calivinguy, &quot;months and months&quot; is right -- this was posted nearly 4 years ago now :-)

Time&#039;s not really the factor stopping me from dishing out advice on this though, inexperience is. I worked at a DD Dragon franchise, which is quite a different animal from the corporate-run schools. I went to the corporate office once for training and that was the last I heard from them.

Getting shares of a small business is an interesting concept (I&#039;m assuming they offer them as part of salary, or something?), but my concern would be accountability. What legal recourse would there by if you want to sell your shares back to the company and they don&#039;t want them back? I&#039;ve really no idea if it&#039;s a good idea, but for my money, there&#039;s a lot less risky ways to invest -- particularly as this is China, and when things are good, they&#039;re great, but when they&#039;re bad, they&#039;re terrible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Calivinguy, &#8220;months and months&#8221; is right &#8212; this was posted nearly 4 years ago now <img src='http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Time&#8217;s not really the factor stopping me from dishing out advice on this though, inexperience is. I worked at a DD Dragon franchise, which is quite a different animal from the corporate-run schools. I went to the corporate office once for training and that was the last I heard from them.</p>
<p>Getting shares of a small business is an interesting concept (I&#8217;m assuming they offer them as part of salary, or something?), but my concern would be accountability. What legal recourse would there by if you want to sell your shares back to the company and they don&#8217;t want them back? I&#8217;ve really no idea if it&#8217;s a good idea, but for my money, there&#8217;s a lot less risky ways to invest &#8212; particularly as this is China, and when things are good, they&#8217;re great, but when they&#8217;re bad, they&#8217;re terrible.</p>
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		<title>By: Calivinguy</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-35384</link>
		<dc:creator>Calivinguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 10:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Ryan.  Feels like my comment might be swept under the rug, as it comes months and months later.  Nonetheless, you&#039;re the first person really that I&#039;ve read up on that worked on DD Dragon.  I came across their new system of selling &quot;shares&quot; in their schools.  I&#039;ve been teaching for a couple years now, 6 months of that in China, and the idea of buying shares and growing a school from within sounds pretty good to me.

But I don&#039;t know anything at all about this franchise.  Is there anything you can tell me that can help me decide if this is the business I want to invest in?  I have some money, but I&#039;m not rich enough to just throw money away, so I need to be cautious.

If you reply, that&#039;s great.  If not, let me just say that your essay was a great read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Ryan.  Feels like my comment might be swept under the rug, as it comes months and months later.  Nonetheless, you&#8217;re the first person really that I&#8217;ve read up on that worked on DD Dragon.  I came across their new system of selling &#8220;shares&#8221; in their schools.  I&#8217;ve been teaching for a couple years now, 6 months of that in China, and the idea of buying shares and growing a school from within sounds pretty good to me.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t know anything at all about this franchise.  Is there anything you can tell me that can help me decide if this is the business I want to invest in?  I have some money, but I&#8217;m not rich enough to just throw money away, so I need to be cautious.</p>
<p>If you reply, that&#8217;s great.  If not, let me just say that your essay was a great read.</p>
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		<title>By: Courtney</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-28808</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 06:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ryan,

Was doing some research on moving to China and came across your blog. I&#039;ve been teaching in Thailand for the past year and am ready for a move. I was wondering if you had any contact information for Zhou Jun? I know it&#039;s been quite a few years, but any little bit would help. I&#039;m sure you know how difficult it is to find a solid recruiter!

Thanks so much!
-Courtney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ryan,</p>
<p>Was doing some research on moving to China and came across your blog. I&#8217;ve been teaching in Thailand for the past year and am ready for a move. I was wondering if you had any contact information for Zhou Jun? I know it&#8217;s been quite a few years, but any little bit would help. I&#8217;m sure you know how difficult it is to find a solid recruiter!</p>
<p>Thanks so much!<br />
-Courtney</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-27909</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 01:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, just wanted to say thanks for the website, it truly is a font of knowledge - so cheers!

My girlfriend and I are applying to the DD Dragon schools, ideally Suzhou. It&#039;ll be our first time teaching (bar the Trinity TESOL course lessons we taught) and so we&#039;re a bit nervous. When they say complete lessons plans are provided, how true a statement is this? I don&#039;t see this is a negative by the way, as I will relish any guidance in my first foray into teaching overseas!

Again, cheers mate, love the site and the photo&#039;s - truly inspiring
Joe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, just wanted to say thanks for the website, it truly is a font of knowledge &#8211; so cheers!</p>
<p>My girlfriend and I are applying to the DD Dragon schools, ideally Suzhou. It&#8217;ll be our first time teaching (bar the Trinity TESOL course lessons we taught) and so we&#8217;re a bit nervous. When they say complete lessons plans are provided, how true a statement is this? I don&#8217;t see this is a negative by the way, as I will relish any guidance in my first foray into teaching overseas!</p>
<p>Again, cheers mate, love the site and the photo&#8217;s &#8211; truly inspiring<br />
Joe</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/looking-back-at-my-life-in-esl/#comment-24783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dani: You mean SEPS? Suzhou Experimental Primary School?

I worked out at the SEPS boarding school, which is in the far north-end of town. It was a tough commute everyday, but the school, faculty and students are ace.

SEPS teachers are generally handled by a teacher recruiter named Jun. He&#039;s an excellent guy. I&#039;ve worked with a number of people in my time in China and a lot of them blow smoke up your ass - Jun talks to you straight and goes above what is expected to help you out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dani: You mean SEPS? Suzhou Experimental Primary School?</p>
<p>I worked out at the SEPS boarding school, which is in the far north-end of town. It was a tough commute everyday, but the school, faculty and students are ace.</p>
<p>SEPS teachers are generally handled by a teacher recruiter named Jun. He&#8217;s an excellent guy. I&#8217;ve worked with a number of people in my time in China and a lot of them blow smoke up your ass &#8211; Jun talks to you straight and goes above what is expected to help you out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 05:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi....Just read your blog...I am interested in teaching in China and recently came across a posting for SPES...just wondering what you think of the school. Would you recommend it? Or should I keep looking. Any info would be great! Thanks in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8230;.Just read your blog&#8230;I am interested in teaching in China and recently came across a posting for SPES&#8230;just wondering what you think of the school. Would you recommend it? Or should I keep looking. Any info would be great! Thanks in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Anon, I should have clarified - there&#039;s very little room for advancement without moving to another country. As my life, for the time being, is in China, my choices were limited to remaining a teacher, becoming a school manager or starting my own school - all of which have little or no interest to me.

Of course, if you wish to be a professional teacher, teaching ESL can be a solid stepping stone. But outside of that sphere (and I dare say few ESL teachers really have/had any ambition of being &quot;real&quot; teachers), transferability is limited - not absent, just limited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Anon, I should have clarified &#8211; there&#8217;s very little room for advancement without moving to another country. As my life, for the time being, is in China, my choices were limited to remaining a teacher, becoming a school manager or starting my own school &#8211; all of which have little or no interest to me.</p>
<p>Of course, if you wish to be a professional teacher, teaching ESL can be a solid stepping stone. But outside of that sphere (and I dare say few ESL teachers really have/had any ambition of being &#8220;real&#8221; teachers), transferability is limited &#8211; not absent, just limited.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with you. There is opportunity for advancement but you have to invest in your development like any other line of work.  If you went on to do an MA TESOL degree you could get into teacher training and university teaching.  EFL is as much or as little as YOU make it.  Good luck in your next adventure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you. There is opportunity for advancement but you have to invest in your development like any other line of work.  If you went on to do an MA TESOL degree you could get into teacher training and university teaching.  EFL is as much or as little as YOU make it.  Good luck in your next adventure.</p>
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