Comments on: Commie Copies Clutter Canada http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/ I'm a dad, designer, China expat and blogger Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:41:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jeremiah http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4347 Jeremiah Sat, 09 Dec 2006 17:50:07 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4347 As for the safety issue, it's a tricky subject. But like you, I've strongly suggested to YJ the many benefits of the American birthing and child-rearing experience. I mean, even Da Shan raised his kids in Canada. That said, unlike you guys, we here in the US have to find the health insurance to cover all the costs... As for the safety issue, it’s a tricky subject. But like you, I’ve strongly suggested to YJ the many benefits of the American birthing and child-rearing experience. I mean, even Da Shan raised his kids in Canada. That said, unlike you guys, we here in the US have to find the health insurance to cover all the costs…

]]> By: Jeremiah http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4329 Jeremiah Fri, 08 Dec 2006 23:21:33 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4329 As I approach my own impending nuptials, it's been on my mind as well...a friend of mine in Beijing once said, "In the West, you fall in love, get married, and have babies to stay married. In China, we get married to have babies, and somewhere down the line we fall in love, too." Yeah, it confused me too when he said it. Congratulations, man. As I approach my own impending nuptials, it’s been on my mind as well…a friend of mine in Beijing once said, “In the West, you fall in love, get married, and have babies to stay married. In China, we get married to have babies, and somewhere down the line we fall in love, too.”

Yeah, it confused me too when he said it. Congratulations, man.

]]> By: Shaun http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4323 Shaun Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:23:40 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4323 Everything seems to always follow in an order, or at least everybody tries to make it follow the order. Marriage->House->Baby. I wouldn't want to raise my kids in China either, but mainly for the reason of education and schools. I'm not sure I agree with the methods used to educate kids in China. BTW even without open-ass pants some Chinese kids are still able to relieve themselves in public. All you need is a helpful relative to hold the kid allowing him the freedom to piss into a trash receptacle or just let him stand on a bench and piss into the bushes. This is a little nugget of knowledge I gained when some distant relatives joined us for a shopping trip to a trendy, upscale, outdoor shopping center. Of course you might need to adjust your hold on the kid if it's a girl and not a boy. Maybe just hold her over the trash barrel until she finishes and then shake dry. Everything seems to always follow in an order, or at least everybody tries to make it follow the order. Marriage->House->Baby.

I wouldn’t want to raise my kids in China either, but mainly for the reason of education and schools. I’m not sure I agree with the methods used to educate kids in China.

BTW even without open-ass pants some Chinese kids are still able to relieve themselves in public. All you need is a helpful relative to hold the kid allowing him the freedom to piss into a trash receptacle or just let him stand on a bench and piss into the bushes. This is a little nugget of knowledge I gained when some distant relatives joined us for a shopping trip to a trendy, upscale, outdoor shopping center.

Of course you might need to adjust your hold on the kid if it’s a girl and not a boy. Maybe just hold her over the trash barrel until she finishes and then shake dry.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4306 Ryan Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:25:15 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4306 @Michael: I hear ya. I am certain that if we did stay in China with a child, we'd be moving closer to Maggie's folks - this has all the advantages of support and all the disadvantages you state. @Hek: You inspired a confused comment in an e-mail from my aunt... and I just have no way to explain it to her. @Sarah: Hey, someone had the chance to come down and see me in the summer but didn't make the drive :-P @Meg: I don't know about brilliant, but it was purposeful. I've often pondered if I could market the open-ass pants thing to adults as the latest style from Japan. @Steven: I wonder if it will catch on. "Like a Chinese typewriter", mean ridiculously large and complicated, is another one I am itching to coin. @Michael: I hear ya. I am certain that if we did stay in China with a child, we’d be moving closer to Maggie’s folks – this has all the advantages of support and all the disadvantages you state.

@Hek: You inspired a confused comment in an e-mail from my aunt… and I just have no way to explain it to her.

@Sarah: Hey, someone had the chance to come down and see me in the summer but didn’t make the drive :-P

@Meg: I don’t know about brilliant, but it was purposeful. I’ve often pondered if I could market the open-ass pants thing to adults as the latest style from Japan.

@Steven: I wonder if it will catch on. “Like a Chinese typewriter”, mean ridiculously large and complicated, is another one I am itching to coin.

]]> By: Steven http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4303 Steven Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:01:19 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4303 "a mantou in the steamer"! you got yrself a new phrase there. “a mantou in the steamer”! you got yrself a new phrase there.

]]> By: Meg http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4298 Meg Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:21:08 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4298 "little bundle of boy": Freudian typo or brilliant cultural insight? PS I don't think I could raise my kid in a place where open-assed-pants are the norm. (then again, I don't hink I'll ever have kids -- babies are too fragile!) My American co-worker has just had a baby w/ his Chinese wife and they plan to stay here w/ the extended family while the baby's small, but move back to the US before he starts school. “little bundle of boy”:

Freudian typo or brilliant cultural insight?

PS I don’t think I could raise my kid in a place where open-assed-pants are the norm. (then again, I don’t hink I’ll ever have kids — babies are too fragile!) My American co-worker has just had a baby w/ his Chinese wife and they plan to stay here w/ the extended family while the baby’s small, but move back to the US before he starts school.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4293 Sarah Fri, 08 Dec 2006 06:27:12 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4293 Well, in that case, I hope Maggie gets pregnant soon so you have to hurry up and move back here, lol! We miss you! Well, in that case, I hope Maggie gets pregnant soon so you have to hurry up and move back here, lol!
We miss you!

]]> By: Hek El Chikano http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4270 Hek El Chikano Thu, 07 Dec 2006 13:21:59 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4270 Chinese good. Foreign devil lazy. Me like Maths at 3. Maths at 4 very lazy child. perhaps retarded. Go Go Red and Yellow. Hek Chinese good.
Foreign devil lazy.
Me like Maths at 3. Maths at 4 very lazy child. perhaps retarded.

Go Go Red and Yellow.

Hek

]]> By: michael http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/farrago/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4258 michael Thu, 07 Dec 2006 02:58:47 +0000 http://www.thehumanaught.com/blog/2006/12/07/commie-copies-clutter-canada/#comment-4258 We left China after our first child was born, but not so much for the health/safety/pollution reasons you cite. More because of the rigid ideas they have about child rearing and the need to do everything a certain way - kids have got to have a certain kind of food, x hours of sleep, and you will be bombarded with instructions from all the aunts and uncles grandparents etc. If you let them, your Chinese in-laws will have your kids dosed up with health tonics, glucose injections and will be practising maths and the violin before the age of four. If you do anything the western way you will be branded as bad/casual/uncaring parents. China is actually a very child-friendly place to have kids for a short while, but you don't want to put your kids though the Chinese education system. We left China after our first child was born, but not so much for the health/safety/pollution reasons you cite. More because of the rigid ideas they have about child rearing and the need to do everything a certain way – kids have got to have a certain kind of food, x hours of sleep, and you will be bombarded with instructions from all the aunts and uncles grandparents etc. If you let them, your Chinese in-laws will have your kids dosed up with health tonics, glucose injections and will be practising maths and the violin before the age of four.
If you do anything the western way you will be branded as bad/casual/uncaring parents. China is actually a very child-friendly place to have kids for a short while, but you don’t want to put your kids though the Chinese education system.

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