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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/china-expat-life/dalian-vs-suzhou/#comment-35598</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot to check back.  Thanks for the response, Ryan.  Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to check back.  Thanks for the response, Ryan.  Take care!</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/china-expat-life/dalian-vs-suzhou/#comment-35592</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dave, I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;m qualified to give an answer, as it&#039;s been 5 years since I lived in Dalian (and I don&#039;t even live in Suzhou anymore), and I&#039;m sure its foreigner-friendliness has improved. I&#039;m going to go out on a limb though and say that Suzhou (and particularly Suzhou&#039;s SIP) is more expat-ready. I&#039;ve had a number of friends visit who live(d) in Dalian, and most said the same.

Suzhou&#039;s SIP area is saturated with foreigners and things foreigners like (good/diverse selection of restaurants, decent shopping, grocery stores with a wide selection of goods, etc.)

I&#039;ve not been to Korea, but am a little surprised to hear it&#039;s so xenophobic and racist. There&#039;s no shortage of either in China, but I can&#039;t say which place is worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dave, I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;m qualified to give an answer, as it&#8217;s been 5 years since I lived in Dalian (and I don&#8217;t even live in Suzhou anymore), and I&#8217;m sure its foreigner-friendliness has improved. I&#8217;m going to go out on a limb though and say that Suzhou (and particularly Suzhou&#8217;s SIP) is more expat-ready. I&#8217;ve had a number of friends visit who live(d) in Dalian, and most said the same.</p>
<p>Suzhou&#8217;s SIP area is saturated with foreigners and things foreigners like (good/diverse selection of restaurants, decent shopping, grocery stores with a wide selection of goods, etc.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not been to Korea, but am a little surprised to hear it&#8217;s so xenophobic and racist. There&#8217;s no shortage of either in China, but I can&#8217;t say which place is worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/china-expat-life/dalian-vs-suzhou/#comment-35591</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that this is an old post of yours but . . .

Which city is more foreigner-friendly? I taught in Korea for a few years and got tired of dealing with the xenophobia and racism there.  I&#039;m sure that Suzhou and Dalian will be friendlier than any city in Korea, so I probably can&#039;t lose.  But I&#039;d appreciate any thoughts you have on the matter.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that this is an old post of yours but . . .</p>
<p>Which city is more foreigner-friendly? I taught in Korea for a few years and got tired of dealing with the xenophobia and racism there.  I&#8217;m sure that Suzhou and Dalian will be friendlier than any city in Korea, so I probably can&#8217;t lose.  But I&#8217;d appreciate any thoughts you have on the matter.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Percy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Percy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 10:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite a nice reading here, seeing your comparison between Dalian where I now have my college life and extraordanary beautiful Suzhou. Good for you to enjoy your Chinese style living.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite a nice reading here, seeing your comparison between Dalian where I now have my college life and extraordanary beautiful Suzhou. Good for you to enjoy your Chinese style living.</p>
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		<title>By: Yan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have something to say about the weather in Suzhou. I&#039;m a native and when I was a child, I remember that the four seasons are very obvious with almost average length. Spring and autumn can be enjoyed for quite a while every year which are the most nice time for outdoor activities. But now, just as you said fall and spring only show in a very short period of time.The difference happened just during the past 10-20 years I think. Environment-wise should really be paid more attention on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have something to say about the weather in Suzhou. I&#8217;m a native and when I was a child, I remember that the four seasons are very obvious with almost average length. Spring and autumn can be enjoyed for quite a while every year which are the most nice time for outdoor activities. But now, just as you said fall and spring only show in a very short period of time.The difference happened just during the past 10-20 years I think. Environment-wise should really be paid more attention on.</p>
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		<title>By: A baozi in the steamer &#124; A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life</title>
		<link>http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/blog/china-expat-life/dalian-vs-suzhou/#comment-27784</link>
		<dc:creator>A baozi in the steamer &#124; A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 05:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] still early, and that we should come back in a week or two and check again. That led us into our recent trip up to Dalian, and then this past week&#8217;s National Holiday. Though impatient to know one way or the other [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] still early, and that we should come back in a week or two and check again. That led us into our recent trip up to Dalian, and then this past week&#8217;s National Holiday. Though impatient to know one way or the other [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 12:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good to see you in Dalian again! And hope to seeya in Suzhou soon-ish.

AS far as culture goes, Dalian would really benefit from a &quot;Bookworm&quot;. You got any guanxi with the Bookworm owner? Tell him if he&#039;d be willing to start one up in Dalian then I&#039;d be ready to run it :)

Oh, and for me one of the big things about Dalian food is that there&#039;s so much great and reasonably priced Korean and Japanese grub around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you in Dalian again! And hope to seeya in Suzhou soon-ish.</p>
<p>AS far as culture goes, Dalian would really benefit from a &#8220;Bookworm&#8221;. You got any guanxi with the Bookworm owner? Tell him if he&#8217;d be willing to start one up in Dalian then I&#8217;d be ready to run it <img src='http://www.ryan-mclaughlin.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and for me one of the big things about Dalian food is that there&#8217;s so much great and reasonably priced Korean and Japanese grub around.</p>
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		<title>By: chriswaugh_bj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriswaugh_bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, I wasn&#039;t talking about pollution.</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On thing that really defines Dalian to me:  Unlike other Chinese 2nd tier cities it&#039;s quite a way from a 1st tier city or the typical population &#039;hub&#039; that tends to surround provincial capitals.

This means it&#039;s pretty self contained (airport, Metro, Ikea, hotels, general conveniences), but it also means it&#039;s quite isolated from local competition and rests on it&#039;s laurels quite a bit.

chriswaugh_bj: Pollution is something Dalian has been quite famous for lacking (less the lack of industry, more the strong wind blowing it away).  Over the past few years other cities in China have made efforts to reduce their levels of pollution, the opposite has been true in Dalian which again has rested on it&#039;s laurels: pollution over summer 2008 hit levels greater than Beijing and nearby notoriously dirty Shenyang several times - when there&#039;s no wind Dalian does get quite dirty these days.  See http://www.daliandalian.com/blog/slipping-on-grease-street-hoping-for-wind-to-blow-it-away</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On thing that really defines Dalian to me:  Unlike other Chinese 2nd tier cities it&#8217;s quite a way from a 1st tier city or the typical population &#8216;hub&#8217; that tends to surround provincial capitals.</p>
<p>This means it&#8217;s pretty self contained (airport, Metro, Ikea, hotels, general conveniences), but it also means it&#8217;s quite isolated from local competition and rests on it&#8217;s laurels quite a bit.</p>
<p>chriswaugh_bj: Pollution is something Dalian has been quite famous for lacking (less the lack of industry, more the strong wind blowing it away).  Over the past few years other cities in China have made efforts to reduce their levels of pollution, the opposite has been true in Dalian which again has rested on it&#8217;s laurels: pollution over summer 2008 hit levels greater than Beijing and nearby notoriously dirty Shenyang several times &#8211; when there&#8217;s no wind Dalian does get quite dirty these days.  See <a href="http://www.daliandalian.com/blog/slipping-on-grease-street-hoping-for-wind-to-blow-it-away" rel="nofollow">http://www.daliandalian.com/blog/slipping-on-grease-street-hoping-for-wind-to-blow-it-away</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the photos!  Maomao is adorable!  Looks like a well fed Chihuahua!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the photos!  Maomao is adorable!  Looks like a well fed Chihuahua!</p>
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